Protest against Berlin Tesla Gigafactory (update)

Tim and me hereby protest against the current plans to build a car gigafactory in Berlin’s vicinity as it poses a too big threat to Berlin’s water supply. There had been massive droughts in the last two years in Brandenburg and the factory is sought to use up as much water as over 75 000 people (for estimation: approx. the amount of people who arrived during the refugee crises in Berlin). Apart from this it is thought to be partially built into a high degree water protection area. We are joined in this protest among others by Nora and Theresa Lantez (website) who live much closer to the envisaged plant and for whom the impact on their living environment would be very direct and rather destructive. Here you can see Theresa dancing:
Theresa Lantez in Bernau.

update Sept.6, 2021: According to the public plans given by Tesla all of the buildings will be built into water protection zones. Moreover the plant site is surrounded by a special european protection zone the Natura 2000 zones. According to my counting the chemicals in the factory exceed by far the allowed limits for a waterprotection zone. In the town hall meeting a representative of the Tesla factory answered that the allowed limits are not exceeded, if one counts each processing unit as a kind of “separate factory” (in german: Aufteilung in Anlagen), because in this way the volumes and weights of hazardous substances of each “Anlage” stay below the limits.
There are descriptions of what can be seen as a separate “Anlage” in the allowed limits for a waterprotection zone. I am not a law person but it appears to me pretty clear that the argumentation of Tesla is simply wrong.

Since the town hall meeting in 2020 things got worse, because Tesla now wants to set up a battery factory as well, where alone the cathode material exceeds limits by about a factor of 20 and the public town hall meetings for the new plans were cancelled.

7 Responses to “Protest against Berlin Tesla Gigafactory (update)”

  1. Joey Says:

    Elon Musk is a visionary and a pioneer. I guess you know already about Space X, here a report in german:

    https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/iss-nasa-spacex-101.html

    Did you see the spacesuits? He is such a cool guy.

  2. E. Satsuma Says:

    Elon Musk our cordial hero ;)

    https://mobile.twitter.com/sovietvisuals/status/1267061638324248577

  3. nad Says:

    Joey asked:

    Did you see the spacesuits?

    Yes I saw the suits. They looked good. They seem to be inspired by the costumes of the peacekeeper troops:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiPgrZciAbg
    I wish all the space scientists a safe journey to and back from the ISS!

    Space X and all other space programs are doing impressive work.

    In general it has though to be said that I feel not so comfortable with how some of the space missions are financed. In particular financing scientific space programs via space tourism seems quite a ressource expensive way. But I understand that some entities may see this as a kind of last resort.

    And even if Space X and Tesla seem to be officially more or less separate:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/28/tesla-sent-20-employees-to-temp-at-spacex-filing-shows.html
    – I got the impression that things get a bit too overstrained here.

    The water situation in the Berlin region (and actually also in other more or less nearby regions) is really bad and it doesn’t look as this is going to change in the forseeable future -on the contrary. I thus see big problems ahead and I perceive the plans for the giga factory as a menace. So I have mixed feelings watching that Space X programs.

  4. DarthJoker Says:

    now:
    clubs die in Berlin an pplz neeD party in boondocks.

    future:
    Musk installs the suuuuuuuuuuuuuper cool RAVE CAVE WITH AN EPIC SOUND SYSTEM AND WOOFERS THE SIZE OF A CAR”
    invites Rammstein

  5. nad Says:

    @DarthJoker
    I find giant amplifiers rather terrible, so even before Corona I went to pop/rock music events usually only if they were open air and/or there was enough room to evade the loudness of amplifiers. Some festivals are even with ear plugs way too loud. But maybe I change my opinion if I get old and nearly deaf.

    I am not so sure if Rammstein would follow the invitation, if they find out that chemical waters from the giga factory poison their drinking water. There had already been some protests by Berlin musicians against the Tesla giga factory, in particular by musician Julia Neigel who recently sang for the band Silly.
    Her protest was even mentioned in one of Berlins biggest tabloids the BZ: Naturschützerin Julia Neigel kritisiert Brandenburgs Behörden bei Tesla-Fabrik.
    As I said already above – the giga factory is envisaged to be partially built into a high degree water protection area. Among others she critisized that the hydrogeological details, which explain the high protection status like that the area is connected to the Urstromtal were only made public after request.

  6. news from the car maker community Says:

    Your protest is nonsense – there is enough water in Berlin and Tesla takes extra care to make water save. Anyways luckily people are not impressed by your protests and proceed in building a clean, green future for this planet. Please read Eva Fox’ report about Tesla’s next-level manufacturing and in particular about the fact that Tesla ordered eight Giga Press aluminum die casting machines for the Berlin Gigafactory!
    Eva Fox is very concerned about the future and she writes:

    I’m a big fan of Tesla, as I worry about the future for my child and for future generations. Tesla’s mission is to accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable energy and I’m passionately striving for this goal. I’m tired of the daily deception from Tesla’s haters against the company, so I strive to spread true information and the latest news about Tesla.

  7. nad Says:

    As a matter of fact I am sort of still recovering from the public hearing in Stadthalle Erkner. I spend “only” three full days in Stadthalle.The whole hearing lasted 8 days. I took some notes but it was impossible to write down everything and a lot of quite important information was sometimes just mumbled in a side sentence.

    Julia Neigel is currently busy (she has a record release show on saturday) but I hope to hear from her soon about the effort to get a word protocoll of the Tesla hearing.

    Quite unbelievingly it was first envisaged by authorities to have the public hearing recorded by a company chosen by Tesla and then to make a rough “content protocoll” from the recording as a documentation of the hearing. It was only through Julia Neigels and other peoples insistence that the recording of the hearing was now immediately copied each day and the copy stored at a neutral location. Moreover the protocoll will now be written down word by word.

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