{"id":5069,"date":"2012-12-20T19:43:28","date_gmt":"2012-12-20T17:43:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/?p=5069"},"modified":"2012-12-20T20:48:01","modified_gmt":"2012-12-20T18:48:01","slug":"copyright-parties","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/?p=5069","title":{"rendered":"copyright parties"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7682n.jpg\"><img src=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7682n.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"IMG_7682n\" width=\"450\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5085\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7682n.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7682n-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The last blog post received quite some comments which I would like to answer. So reader <a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/?p=5057#comment-57514\">Jared Khithim <\/a> asked about the use of my proposals for a pre-preprint achive:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>..this seems to be a quite clear violation of your copyrights! Are you going to sue Holtzbrinck?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Reader <a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/?p=5057#comment-57523\">M. Boulangel<\/a> saw this similarily and wondered wether I wouldn&#8217;t like to set up my own preprint archive and last but not least reader <a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/?p=5057#comment-57521\">Mandy<\/a> asked about the CC-10 birthday party:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230;is boring talks the new berlin party scoop?\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So regarding the copyright issue: No &#8211; I don&#8217;t want to sue Holtzbrinck. In fact it&#8217;s not only that I find my suggestions not overly original and rather intuitive but also that I think that it&#8217;s good that at least some people care about the issue. Moreover I don&#8217;t want to set up a preprint archive &#8211; I actually had already set up** and maintained a <a href=\"http:\/\/www-sfb288.math.tu-berlin.de\/Publications\/Preprints.html\">preprint archive<\/a> for almost ten years at the former <a href=\"http:\/\/www-sfb288.math.tu-berlin.de\/index.html\">sfb288<\/a> which starts with lecture notes* by <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ludwig_Faddeev\">Ludvig Faddeev<\/a> from autumn 1991. <\/p>\n<p>I could also imagine that eventually some kind of pre-preprint archive may exist already at some institution, as there are meanwhile many institutional repositories. Or there may be related projects. Like for the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/?p=4540\">Mimirix project<\/a> we used <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Trac\">trac<\/a> for (amongst others) reading the students works and who knows wether there aren&#8217;t universities who already set up their own online dissertation pre-print archive. I still think it would be good to have something like this with a long term support offered by a global public institution like the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Arxiv\">arxiv.org<\/a>. A company like Holtzbrinck has to keep its own business interest in focus and this <em>may<\/em> unfortunately turn out to be eventually at some point against the original idea of science. <\/p>\n<p>Concluding &#8211; I eventually would use my &#8220;copyrights&#8221; passively, that is in case someone would e.g. try to forbid the arxiv.org to set up such a thing, because of copyright issues (there are still <a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/?p=931\">software patents<\/a> in the US)  then I could eventually try to help the arxiv with my timestamped proposals, which are distributed over the internet. But I don&#8217;t think that this is going to happen.<\/p>\n<p>*the preprints have no licence, since back then a kind of creative commons share-a-like licence was sort of self-understood for preprints, I actually don&#8217;t know how the arxiv handles these new laws.<br \/>\n**with technical help from colleagues<\/p>\n<p>Regarding the party&#8230; the party of course started after the talks, images after the click.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\n<\/br><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7682n.jpg\"><img src=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7682n.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"IMG_7682n\" width=\"450\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5085\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7682n.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7682n-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nThe party took place in the lobby of the Haus Ungarn (the former <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hungaricum.de\/index.php\/de\/\">.CHB<\/a>), which hosts also the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.goldneun.de\/\">Goldneun<\/a> restaurant and bar.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7738.jpg\"><img src=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7738.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"IMG_7738\" width=\"450\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5076\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7738.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7738-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nIn the foreground the <a href=\"https:\/\/netzpolitik.org\/\">www.netzpolitik.org<\/a> in-crowd with<a href=\"http:\/\/vimeo.com\/55429676#t=23m40s\"> Markus Beckedahl and Henrik Moltke<\/a>, the latter used to be the danish project lead of creative commons and was involved in the project <a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/?p=1671\">freebeer<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7687.jpg\"><img src=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7687.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"IMG_7687\" width=\"450\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5084\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7687.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7687-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nApart from the Goldneun cocktail bar there was also a beerbar, called &#8220;made in Berlin&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7705.jpg\"><img src=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7705.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"IMG_7705\" width=\"450\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5078\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7705.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7705-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7693.jpg\"><img src=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7693.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"IMG_7693\" width=\"450\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5079\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7693.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7693-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nThe cocktail bar was nicely decorated with flowers.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7697.jpg\"><img src=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7697.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"IMG_7697\" width=\"450\" height=\"675\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5080\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7697.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7697-200x300.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nThe Berlin <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fernsehturm_Berlin\">fernsehturm<\/a> with the &#8220;Park Inn&#8221; Hotel formerly known as &#8220;Hotel Stadt Berlin&#8221; which is probably the most famous <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Interhotel\">interhotel.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7689.jpg\"><img src=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7689.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"IMG_7689\" width=\"450\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5083\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7689.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7689-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nUnfortunately it was tooo dark to make many pictures of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hausungarn.org\/\">cool interior<\/a> of the location. In the foto, behind the staircase, you see a bit of an interactive mirror. If you come close to the light speckled wall in the background then your image is scanned and gets &#8220;reflected&#8221; as little dots.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7747.jpg\"><img src=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7747.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"IMG_7747\" width=\"450\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5074\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7747.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7747-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nThe location is partially encircled by a big glass front with currently moisty windows due to the frost.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7690.jpg\"><img src=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7690.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"IMG_7690\" width=\"450\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5082\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7690.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7690-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nThe location has also a little terrace, in the background a Ferris wheel. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7691.jpg\"><img src=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7691.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"IMG_7691\" width=\"450\" height=\"675\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5081\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7691.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7691-200x300.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nNext to the Ferris wheel is the  <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/St._Mary%27s_Church,_Berlin\">Marienkirche<\/a>, presumably Berlins second oldest church, here behind the turntables.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7743.jpg\"><img src=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7743.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"IMG_7743\" width=\"450\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5075\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7743.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7743-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nThe DJ&#8217;s behind the turntables played cool Creative Commons licenced music from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kraftfuttermischwerk.de\/blogg\/\">Kraftfuttermischwerk<\/a> and Peter Withoutfield (<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.rebellen.info\/\">Blogrebellen<\/a>). There was though not much dancing &#8211;  at least while I was there it seemed people wanted mostly to talk.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7681.jpg\"><img src=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7681.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"IMG_7681\" width=\"450\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5070\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7681.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7681-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nThe CC tart was cut.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7759.jpg\"><img src=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7759.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"IMG_7759\" width=\"450\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5073\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7759.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7759-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nThe mirror columns of the location were a hiding place for those who had to work.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7714.jpg\"><img src=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7714.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"IMG_7714\" width=\"450\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5077\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7714.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7714-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nLike a business&#8217; death angel &#8211; a sculpture is standing in front of cigarette vendor machines.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7767.jpg\"><img src=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7767.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"IMG_7767\" width=\"450\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5071\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7767.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2012\/12\/IMG_7767-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nAnd as one can see at the ash tray unfortunately the cigarette business florished.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The last blog post received quite some comments which I would like to answer. So reader Jared Khithim asked about the use of my proposals for a pre-preprint achive: ..this seems to be a quite clear violation of your copyrights! Are you going to sue Holtzbrinck? Reader M. Boulangel saw this similarily and wondered wether [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[4,13,15,12,31,6,17],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5069"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=5069"}],"version-history":[{"count":32,"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5069\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5116,"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5069\/revisions\/5116"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=5069"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=5069"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=5069"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}