{"id":2143,"date":"2009-04-24T23:09:26","date_gmt":"2009-04-24T21:09:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/?p=2143"},"modified":"2009-04-24T23:09:26","modified_gmt":"2009-04-24T21:09:26","slug":"no-dream-panorama","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/?p=2143","title":{"rendered":"no dream panorama!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/?p=2142#comments\">comment <\/a> to my previous post I was asked wether I &#8220;want back GDR&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>here my answer:<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t want to have the former GDR back. <\/p>\n<p>But I think the bad deeds of e.g. the STASI are not automatically correlated to every GDR-feature. Like e.g. the GDR had a very good waste-management (sero-system) which was <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.de\/books?id=ViXRZZv_wcMC&#038;pg=PA6&#038;lpg=PA6&#038;dq=sero+ddr&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=-u5qySBMfJ&#038;sig=tDmOzSpHQ4ieptZidZIV4HAZSDo&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=ZR7ySZiNGNqRsAbo6sWJAQ&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=8\">neglected in the west<\/a> (<a href=\"http:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/Category:Recycling_in_the_German_Democratic_Republic\">images<\/a>) for no good reason. <\/p>\n<p>The former GDR was not &#8211; as it claimed with its name &#8211; a german democratic state. I visited the GDR rather often (most of my relatives lived in East Berlin) and in fact GDR-authorities were threatening me already as a ten year old for my political opinions (but thats another story). <\/p>\n<p>People who were opposing the official politics were suppressed, where the methods ranged from <a href=\"http:\/\/de.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Stasiopfer\">occupational ban to imprisonment (and sometimes execution &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/de.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ministerium_f%C3%BCr_Staatssicherheit\">according to Wikipedia<\/a> there were 164 death penalties made to the order of the STASI)<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>Although torture was forbidden in the GDR (here an excerpt of the <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.de\/books?id=6BvYdJqvDBoC&#038;pg=PA504&#038;lpg=PA504&#038;dq=folter+ddr&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=yQ9q-huQ8s&#038;sig=aSzzNXKusJ2OBsA06SzIy3OxbbM&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=vQPySfqoDYOL_QagsLniCQ&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=7\">GDR constitution<\/a>) some methods of the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Stasi\">STASI<\/a>, like <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sleep_deprivation\">sleep deprivation<\/a> could be called psychological torture. Also the conditions within prisons (here a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=TNbz8mYB_s0\">panorama tourr<\/a> through the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.stiftung-hsh.de\/\">STASI-prison in Berlin-Hohenschoenhausen<\/a>) could be seen as torture like in particular the socalled <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gulag.memorial.de\/person.php5?pers=247\">water cells<\/a> which were cells without a window and no furniture and 2 cm water on the floor.  As a torture not as immediate life-threatening as <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Waterboarding\"> waterboarding<\/a> but still scary and cruel.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In a comment to my previous post I was asked wether I &#8220;want back GDR&#8221;. here my answer: I don&#8217;t want to have the former GDR back. But I think the bad deeds of e.g. the STASI are not automatically correlated to every GDR-feature. Like e.g. the GDR had a very good waste-management (sero-system) which [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[13,24,33],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2143"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2143"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2143\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2143"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2143"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2143"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}