{"id":1336,"date":"2007-07-17T09:12:52","date_gmt":"2007-07-17T07:12:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/?p=1336"},"modified":"2007-07-17T09:12:52","modified_gmt":"2007-07-17T07:12:52","slug":"on-nuclear-energy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/?p=1336","title":{"rendered":"on nuclear energy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img src='http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/wp-content\/2007\/07\/kkw_grafenrheinfeld.jpg' alt='kkw_grafenrheinfeld.jpg' \/><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/de.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bild:KKW_Grafenrheinfeld.jpg\">image source<\/a><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<\/br><br \/>\nDue to the alarming results of the IPCC study concerning the world climate the discussions about using nuclear energy got a new boost (e.g. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.world-nuclear-news.org\/nuclearPolicies\/USA_Florida_and_California_ponder_nuclear_future_100707.shtml\">Florida and California ponder nuclear future<\/a> or Brazil to cite some examples) . The main argument for the use of nuclear energy in terms of saving the climate are the low degree of greenhouse gas emissions, however comparative studies often leave out the carbon costs of mining. <\/p>\n<p>In <a href=\"http:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/?p=1156\">this old randform post about Russia`s nuclear plans<\/a>, it was emphasized that Russia&#8217;s plans are to enforce a nuclear reactor type which is called <strong>fast breeder<\/strong> (type BN &#8211; yellow partition in the diagram at the end of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ng.ru\/energy\/2006-09-12\/13_atom.html#\">article<\/a> on the left side). However Russia is just an example and in fact the in the post mentioned BN-600 is an interesting prototype for e.g. Chinas nuclear energy program (here a list about prospected and existing <a href=\"http:\/\/www.world-nuclear.org\/info\/inf47.html\">nuclear reactors in Asia<\/a>) and the development of the follow-up model BN-800 is apparently in <a href=\"ww.jaea.go.jp\/04\/turuga\/tief5\/images\/TIEF5-S2_4.pdf\">cooperation with Japan<\/a>). <\/p>\n<p>So what is so peculiar about the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fast_breeder\">fast breeders?<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The big problem of <strong>nowadays nuclear energy<\/strong> is that with the current most common power plants the ressource Uranium 235 <strong>will be finished in about roughly 50-70 years (source: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.world-nuclear.org\/info\/inf75.html\">here<\/a> or <a href=\"http:\/\/www.greenpeace.de\/themen\/atomkraft\/nachrichten\/artikel\/uran_fuer_atomkraftwerke_reicht_noch_maximal_65_jahre\/\">here.<\/a>) <\/strong>. So <strong>proceeding with nuclear energy means that at one point one has to fall back on producing nuclear energy with <em>breeders<\/em><\/strong>, which &#8220;breed&#8221; more fissile materials. <\/p>\n<p>Breeders, in particular fast breeders were in the past mostly used for weapon production instead for pure energy production. This was because <strong>producing energy with them is\/was too expensive<\/strong> (this will change with rising Uran prices) and since <strong>nuclear safety is more problematic<\/strong> (e.g. fast breeders are more prone to a <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Nuclear_meltdown\">nuclear meltdown<\/a>, or e.g. the coolant containing <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sodium\">Sodium<\/a> is highly explosive when exposed to water). And finally -since one can produce weapons with them- their mere existence increases the <strong>risk of <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Nuclear_proliferation\">nuclear proliferation<\/a><\/strong>. <strong>F<\/strong>ast <strong>B<\/strong>reeder <strong>R<\/strong>eactors are called <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fast_breeder\">fast<\/a> because they are using fast neutrons (i.e. the neutrons are not <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Thermal_neutrons\">slowed down<\/a> as in the usual reactors) and are abbreviated as FBR.<\/p>\n<p>citation from the (pro-nuclear) <a href=\"http:\/\/www.world-nuclear.org\/info\/inf98.html\">World Nuclear Association:<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The FBR was originally conceived to extend the world&#8217;s uranium resources, and could do this by a factor of about 60. When those resources were perceived to be scarce, several countries embarked upon extensive FBR development programs. However significant technical and materials problems were encountered, and also geological exploration showed by the 1970s that scarcity was not going to be a concern for some time. Due to both factors, by the 1980s it was clear that FBRs would not be commercially competitive with existing light water reactors.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The above implies that the FBRs could extend the use of nuclear (fission) technology to roughly about 50*60=3000 years- given the <strong>current demand<\/strong> of nuclear energy (more on this see below). (It should be pointed out that breeding with Thorium in conventional reactors may extend this deadline <strong>at most<\/strong> to 5000 years (generously assuming that no Thorium would be used in FBR&#8217;s and using the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.world-nuclear.org\/info\/inf62.html\">factor 40<\/a> of Thorium). However <a href=\"ww.kernenergie.de\/r2\/de\/Unsere_Position\/Positionspapiere\/Position\/Gute_Gruende\/unabhaengig_rohstoffimporte.php\">this<\/a> pro-nuclear german site has a different estimation of 200 years (may be including future demands ?).<\/p>\n<p>Here a short intro into the technology:<br \/>\nThere are basically three materials which are used for energy production in a nuclear reactor, these materials are called <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fissile_material\">fissile materials<\/a> and they are: Uranium 235, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Uranium-233\">Uranium 233<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Plutonium-239\">Plutonium 239<\/a>. Uranium-235 is occuring in nature, but only about 1% of the natural Uranium is <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Uranium-235\">Uranium-235<\/a>, the rest is mostly Uranium-238. <strong>Uranium-233 and Plutonium 239 have to be produced in breeders<\/strong>. <strong>Uran 233<\/strong> is basically produced <strong>from <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Thorium\">Thorium-232<\/a><\/strong>, whereas <strong>Plutonium 239<\/strong> is produced from <strong>Uran 238<\/strong>. Thorium and Uranium-238 are for that reason called <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fertile_material\">fertile<\/a>, since they are not fissile materials, but they can give fissile materials in a breeder. <\/p>\n<p>A breeder consists very roughly of a <strong>core<\/strong> containg fissile material (e.g. Uran-235, Plutonium from weapons etc.) and often a <strong>blanket<\/strong> which is &#8220;wrapped around&#8221; the core and which is containing the fertile material (Thorium, Uranium 238). The core provides the neutrons, which are necessary to convert Thorium or Uranium-238 into Uranium 233 and Plutonium 239, repectively.<\/p>\n<p>Uranium 233, Uran 235 and Plutonium 239 can be used for <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Nuclear_bomb\">atomic bombs<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>In contrast to Uranium-238 Thorium has the advantage that it gives Uranium-233 and not the extremely toxic Plutonium. In addition Uranium-233 seems to produce a little less waste. Moreover it is apparently possible to mix Thorium with Uran 238 in order to make it more resistant to proliferation (citation from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.world-nuclear.org\/info\/inf62.html\">World Nuclear Association<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The blanket will be thorium with some U-238, which means that any uranium chemically separated from it (for the U-233 ) is not useable for weapons. Spent blanket fuel also contains U-232, which decays rapidly and has very gamma-active daughters creating significant problems in handling the bred U-233 and hence conferring proliferation resistance. Plutonium produced in the seed will have a high proportion of Pu-238, generating a lot of heat and making it even more unsuitable for weapons than normal reactor-grade Pu.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>For that reason Thorium is sometimes called a &#8220;green&#8221; nuclear energy. Judge yourself how &#8220;green&#8221; this is. <\/p>\n<p>There exists another method to produce Uranium 233 from Thorium which is by substituting the core by another neutron source. Here (roughly) a beam of high-energy protons  is directed at a high-atomic number target (&#8220;a disk&#8221;) which produces the neutrons. The high-energy protons are produced in a particle accelerator. This form of producing nuclear energy (which is more or less in the research state) is called <a href=\"http:\/\/www.world-nuclear.org\/info\/inf35.html\">Accelerator-driven Nuclear Energy.<\/a> It has the advantage that the neutron source (which is initiating the nuclear reaction in the blanket) can be &#8220;switched off&#8221; fastly. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ng.ru\/energy\/2006-12-12\/12_greentech.html\">This<\/a> article in the Russian Independent describes a similar approach and is again titled as &#8220;green&#8221; (read also the comments).<\/p>\n<p>The <strong>current use<\/strong> of nuclear power compensates for about <strong>6% of the total worldwide energy consumption<\/strong> (according to a <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Energy_consumption\">BP study<\/a>, which is also used <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bpb.de\/wissen\/QDNZZC,,0,Verbrauch_von_Prim%E4renergie.html\">here<\/a>).<br \/>\nIt is mainly used for generating electricity (and very rarely for (hydrogen) fuel). There are countries which use nuclear energy for as much as about 75% of their electricity production (e.g. France). This means that if the use grows with a factor x then the number of power plants will be multiplied by x and the availability of nuclear power needs to be divided by x, e.g. if the use of nuclear power raises with a factor 10 (which would probably include partial fuel production, so that this would probably not account for 60% of the <strong>current<\/strong> energy demand, but less then that!) then the number of power plants will raise from about nowadays <a href=\"http:\/\/www.world-nuclear.org\/info\/reactors.html\">450<\/a> to 4500 (!) and the availability of nuclear fuel would decrease to 300 years (if we take the 3000 years number) or 20 years (if we take the 200 years number). The amount of nuclear waste would raise of course also by a factor 10, but this would be accumulating (!) over the years (and as it seems in a not very well <a href=\"http:\/\/www-drcs.iaea.org\/dbmain.asp\">documented<\/a> way). The risk of an accident however will raise by more than a factor 10, given the above mentioned reasons.  The risk of proliferation and nuclear wars is probably also raising more than a factor of ten. So you can do the calculations by yourself depending on the demand-x-factor.<\/p>\n<p>Concluding in view of the above: nuclear energy could only make a halfway substantial contribution (and even this seems to be unclear) if one makes a lot of sacrifices, in terms of investments into technologies with high risks and an unethical waste problem. A country which is getting around without nuclear energy is a lucky country. I am happy for comments on this.<\/p>\n<p>However I still think nuclear research in &#8220;fissile technologies&#8221; which is in an international noncommercial cooperation and in uninhabited areas should be supported &#8211; last not least for burning old plutonium weapons and for keeping the knowledge and a fall-back option. (A conventional power plant needs about 3 years to be built the FBRs longer)<\/p>\n<p>But I am asking myself &#8211; in view of all this really nuclear super high tech approaches &#8211; why it is (at least in Germany\/Europe) apparently not possible to first do the less high tech things like e.g. to <strong>built an intelligent network for transporting electric energy<\/strong> which accounts for peak currencies (like from wind energy) in other terms as just by &#8220;switching off&#8221;. The <strong>electricity network is currently one of the major obstacles in the use of renewable energies<\/strong> (e.g. quite a share of produced electric energy from wind has to be thrown away in Germany!):  <\/p>\n<p>A citation from the network society<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.vdn-berlin.de\/das_uebertragungsnetz_in_deutschland.asp\">vdn:<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Das H\u00f6chstspannungsnetz ist inzwischen vielfach vermascht. Der Strom flie\u00dft nach physikalischen Gesetzm\u00e4\u00dfigkeiten im Netz, die als Kirchhoffsches bzw. Ohmsches Gesetz beschrieben sind. Der aktuelle Schaltzustand des Netzes &#8211; auch Topologie genannt &#8211; (zu- bzw. abgeschaltete Leitungen, Transformatorstufenstellungen etc.), die \u00f6rtliche Stromabgabe an unterlagerte Verteilnetze, Abgabe an Gro\u00dfindustriekunden sowie der aktuelle Einsatz von Kraftwerken bestimmen, wie viel Strom \u00fcber einzelne Leitungen flie\u00dft. Der \u00dcbertragungsnetzbetreiber hat demnach nur durch \u00c4nderung des Kraftwerkeinsatzes und durch Schalthandlungen im Netz bedingten Einfluss auf den physikalischen Lastfluss. Es ist daher sehr wichtig, den Fluss des Stromes sowie die Belastungen s\u00e4mtlicher Betriebsmittel zu \u00fcberwachen, um rechtzeitig \u00dcberlastungen und Engp\u00e4sse im Netz zu erkennen und Gegenma\u00dfnahmen einleiten zu k\u00f6nnen. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>-> see also <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vdn-berlin.de\/windkraft.asp\">vdn zur windkraft<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>image source<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[24,25,7,17],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1336"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1336"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1336\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1336"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1336"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.randform.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1336"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}